Movie 'verse Falcon: actually possible
Mar. 27th, 2012 02:03 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
eliyesOkay, so, in 2008 movie The Incredible Hulk, which is crossing over with the upcoming Avengers movie, P.J. Kerr played Jim Wilson. In the comics, Jim was one of the Hulk's sidekicks, as well as his friend, and I think possibly the first Marvel hero to die of AIDS.
He was also the nephew of Sam Wilson, aka Falcon, Captain America's longest-running partner and good friend.
Might movie Steve meet Sam? I would be happy with even something like the two of them bumping into one another on the street and Jim (played again by Kerr for maximum recognition factor) hailing him as "Uncle Sam" or even just "Sam". (Hell, someone calling out to "Uncle Sam" would get Steve's attention anyway. ;3)
...Maybe I'll fic it.
(P.S. Amadeus Cho was also attending university with Jim. Might we see Hercules at some point...?)
He was also the nephew of Sam Wilson, aka Falcon, Captain America's longest-running partner and good friend.
Might movie Steve meet Sam? I would be happy with even something like the two of them bumping into one another on the street and Jim (played again by Kerr for maximum recognition factor) hailing him as "Uncle Sam" or even just "Sam". (Hell, someone calling out to "Uncle Sam" would get Steve's attention anyway. ;3)
...Maybe I'll fic it.
(P.S. Amadeus Cho was also attending university with Jim. Might we see Hercules at some point...?)
![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-27 05:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-28 12:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-27 09:51 pm (UTC)GEORGESAM.Why don't I have a Cap icon, anyhow?
(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-28 01:06 am (UTC)I may write a story where Sam approaches Steve because he's got that look vets who've just got back to the USA get, except moreso, and Sam is, after all, a social worker. (Too bad Culvert University is mysteriously in Virginia, although I suppose for gummint reasons Steve could be there... waiting on campus for Bruce... but Sam would have to explicitly be visiting Jim or something....*ponders BFF bunnies, Capbunny in particular*)
Dunno, you've got other Invaders. Do you still have open icon space? ...I do, I should make me a Cap icon, but oh jeez, so much source material to choose from...
(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-28 08:09 pm (UTC)You know, now I'm picturing a Bunny America. Steve has the most adorable little snuffly pink nose. :3
(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-28 10:52 pm (UTC)eli belleh: bunnies (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531773_10150887250304838_704494837_12604893_648548941_n.jpg) bunnies (http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537842_10150739907510901_584650900_11969171_1027910571_n.jpg)
crustacean: yay bunnies!
eli belleh: Thor hates leprechauns? (http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429309_3360557448674_1111191813_33562494_1046110114_n.jpg)
eli belleh: awesome photo, possibly true text
crustacean: *snickers* thanks. I needed that.
eli belleh: I could see how it might be true, considering his history with other small gold-obsessed dudes
crustacean: indeed
eli belleh: *sighs at MArvel making Sif black-haired*
eli belleh: but then, they also made Thor blond, so...
eli belleh: *pictures Thorbunny*
eli belleh: or Thorhare
crustacean: *raises an eyebrow*
eli belleh: I've just woke up, my mind is set on random
crustacean: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llo5u9NGHo1qj4z2po1_500.jpg
eli belleh: I hope that in the Avengers movie there's a scene where Cap picks up Mjolnir and hands it to Thor, totally unaware of the implications
crustacean: Platonic rule 34?
eli belleh: :D
eli belleh: *hugs*
eli belleh: THorbunny
crustacean: yup
crustacean: I typed it into google and there it was.
crustacean: also this, but it is very small: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQAiqmJlDp9_GlKSZ_zRjrQlvYMVltgeGm6fi1_2uRVG9lvpCOwCX5ng
crustacean: which is apparently from a greeting card: http://www.card-making-downloads.com/bmz_cache/4/426e669fa7d4f5807cf9b8c12b9c4c58.image.350x349.jpg
eli belleh: weird!
eli belleh: ...where did this plotbunny come from?
eli belleh: plotbunny: *adorable scratches bhind ear*
crustacean: does it involve thorbunny/
eli belleh: no, alas
eli belleh: although I could generate a drabble for that easily
eli belleh: on the premise of Cap interrupts an epic battle between Redwing and Thorbunny to focus them on fighting a supervillain
crustacean: Thormenagerie! Thorfrog and Thorbunny meet, and they both go have tea with Sleipnir. *nod*
crustacean: have a good…whatever your brain processes this time as.
eli belleh: yes
eli belleh: sweet dreams
crustacean: I shall attempt to make them about kittens and bunnies.
crustacean: …maybe thorbunnies. And, uh, Capkittens. He'd make a cute kitten, right?
eli belleh: he would make an ADORABLE KITTEN omg
crustacean: *snickers* ok. Thorbunnies and Capkittens it is. :D
(no subject)
Date: 2012-03-28 10:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-01 12:01 am (UTC)Why are you not writing the Avengers movie, mah ely? I would pay to see that.
[Cap] would make an ADORABLE KITTEN omg
This does exist! Kind've. Captain Americat is from the Spider-Ham universe, and is adorable. But Marvel seems to have forgotten he exists. Boo.
...So, this does bring up the question of what Sam, Bucky, and Sharon would all be.
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-01 01:26 am (UTC)I would also pay to see that. I am going to pay anyway, but, y'know... (And I'm not writing it because I refuse to watch The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man 2! I'll probably watch Thor soon, though.)
This does exist! Kind've. Captain Americat is from the Spider-Ham universe, and is adorable. But Marvel seems to have forgotten he exists. Boo.
...So, this does bring up the question of what Sam, Bucky, and Sharon would all be.
Marvel seems to have done several characters in Spider-Ham's universe as various animals, and then again as 100% pigs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Ham#Other_characters). But Falcon, Bucky, and Sharon aren't there. I think Bucky would be a dog ("James Buchanen Barkes"/"Barky"?) or a deer ("Bucky" indeed!). Possibly a horse, speaking of bucking. Sam would be either a really kickass bird of prey or (more likely) some other animal entirely with the wings added. They seem to like punning from the names, but they also had "Hulk-bunny". (...Inappropriately hilarious!) I am really tired, so I am having trouble here. They made MJ into a waterbuffalo and Doc Samson into a clam... Sharon makes sense to me as a chameleon, a bit, because she's a master of disguise, but there's no pun opportunity there, and anyway it's funnier to have her be something else. Like a sheep! "Shear"on, get it? Agent Threebagsofwool. ( -_-)zzzZZzzzsheepcountingzzzz
I am not surepised they went with Captain Americat (at least untilt hey switched to Captain Hamerica) because reading the big bricks of the old comis, they are constantly saying he moves like a cat.
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-02 02:09 am (UTC)He also had, at one time, a pet cat that looked suspiciously like Socks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socks_(cat)). Kitty did not like the shield, though. X3
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-02 04:14 am (UTC)Is this a different cat than Figaro, who lived in Sam's apartment/office and kept trying to sleep on Steve when he crashed on the couch?
Jim: *gravely scritches the chin of Steve Mouser aka Captain Americat!*
Capkitty: *purrs of justice*
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-02 03:02 pm (UTC)I'm going to guess it is, because this cat seemed to be resolutely Steve's. It liked to nap on his television.
omg Captain Americat scritchin's! <3
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-02 05:37 pm (UTC)Cool. :3
Captain Americat: *leads Jim's army of marmalades in an epic battle against snakes!*
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-03 10:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-03 11:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-02 03:01 pm (UTC)I refuse to watch The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man 2!
While I can't speak for Iron Man 2 (I'll get to why it troubles me in a moment), I will say that the second Hulk movie was, despite being a fix-it reboot, actually pretty good.
Whereas the first Hulk movie was all about the smashing and a half-baked trauma that made Bruce into an unstable (and size-variable!) green monster, the second movie actually handled the rage part better. It also made the Hulk into less of a creature and more of a person. Granted, you can only go so far with Hulk before it becomes a sell-out to the core of the character, but I liked the way they handled it there. It was less of a "Hulk smash you all!" and more of a "if you hurt Hulk, Hulk will smash; if you're okay to Hulk, Hulk will leave you alone" thing, which is how I think Hulk should be played, frankly.
(As an aside, my favorite incarnation of the Hulk in recent memory is the one that has popped up on Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which, if you get a chance to see it, really is just fantastic. Hulk is allowed enough autonomy to be a fully-realized character, but he's still undeniably Hulk. There is also a very cute moment between Hulk (who, up to that point, had only been a reluctant hero and had felt like everyone hated him) and Captain America, who pretty much tells Hulk he's awesome and should keep being awesome and Hulk has a moment of "...wait. Really?" It's so bwee. Also, the new season has WINTER SOLDIER OMG. So there's another reason to watch.)
It helps, of course, that the acting was surprisingly solid for a monster movie, and I, at least, came out of it with a bit of love for both of the leads. I still have no idea why they recast Bruce for The Avengers, as I think the role was in exceedingly good hands, but I also can't say I can complain very much about the new guy they've got, either. Having just seen Shutter Island, I think Bruce has a good actor in his brainmeats for the forseeable future.
As for Iron Man 2...
I like the idea of it. I love, love, love Rhodey, and was absolutely thrilled when I discovered the movie would give him his chance to shine. Hell, I was even okay with the idea of the Crimson Dynamo as a villain (I know, I know, wait for it); I think Mickey Rourke is a fine actor, and was happy with his casting. BUT. I was not okay with the WTF meddling that seemed to be going on there. Why was the Crimson Dynamo randomly Whiplash? Or, I suppose, why was Whiplash randomly the Crimson Dynamo? Why was Tony strutting around like a peacock without any sort of check mechanism (ie, Pepper)? And, most importantly, why did they replace Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle? As random has so helpfully pointed out, just about any other mainline black actor would have looked, sounded, and moved more like Terrence Howard than Don Cheadle. Hell, Will Smith looks more like Terrence Howard than Don Cheadle. (We both agreed that Will Smith would have made a hilarious, if not dramatically viable, Rhodey.) I think that meddling there, casting-wise, was what made me forgo seeing it in theatres, and it's still something that me pause in paying to see it, now.
The weird thing is, I still do intend to see it, someday. Because there was one preview for it (not the trailer that was released before the movie, but one made after it was already in theatres and had been running for a while) that actually makes the movie look... well, fun. Maybe not great, or even good... but fun. Like a popcorn flick, y'know? And I can't figure out why that wasn't the trailer that ran before it was released. Because, frankly, if I'd seen that one, I likely would have gone to see it. Don Cheadle aside, I mean.
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-06 01:11 am (UTC)I did like Rhodey in the first movie, but I confess the moment I could tell Tony was aobut to out himself as Iron Man, I turned it off. The second movie built from that, with what looked (even just in the trailers) to be even more "Tony's ego is out of control" stuff that I could not be arsed. I'm not especially fond of Tony Stark or Iron Man to begin with.
(no subject)
Date: 2012-04-06 08:04 pm (UTC)Tony can be fun, but only if the writers admit right out of the gate that this is not a particularly good person, or a person who anyone should ever want to emulate. That's probably why the first movie worked -- Tony is an ass, and we all knew it within the first five minutes. He's a heroic ass, and he clearly has his demons and is trying to do better, but: leopard, spots, etc.
Still. This is why they pair him with Steve. Steve is not afraid to pull him aside and say, "Tony, WTF." And Steve may be the only person (Pepper aside?) that Tony will listen to in that way.
[/rambles]