Okay, so the movie in question was the Overture movie for Saint Seiya (it was supposed to be the first of three and thus ends on a cliffhanger, but there won't be more, alas). The Overture movie comes after 114 episodes of the first TV show, a series of 18 OAVs that covered a story arc of the manga, and various other movie produced during the run of the tv show that I'm not counting since they're basically a separate continuity. Anyway. My point is that there's a fuck of a lot of backstory.
The pertinent backstory to all of this is that two of the characters, Shun and Ikki, are brothers. And while Ikki started out as brainwashed evil guy, he saw the light and switched sides and then the writers realised "FUCK he's WAY TOO POWERFUL" because he was the first Big Bad, y'see, so he's more stompy than his fellows. (Although in truth, Shun's more powerful than him. But in the anime, Shun often doesn't like to fight. Fortunately this movie didn't carry on that tradition.) Ikki is the Phoenix Saint (and he can actually come back from the dead, see WAY TOO POWERFUL) and because we're us, Phoenix automatically becomes "doom chicken". We tend to refer to Ikki as "the Chicken". (This does not in anyway indicate cowardice. Ikki's a badass in pink and blue.)
Now, the writers' solution to dealing with power issues was to get Ikki out of the way a lot of the time. He goes off on his own, he doesn't play well with others, he pretends he's not part of the group, he deals with now being way more religious than his fellows after having served an enemy god. But if Shun is in trouble? Suddenly he's there hurling fireballs. He's like an awesome fire ninja godling, and he's largely unstoppable. He doesn't just save Shun's bacon, though; he's also prone to saving the day for the others (or, at least, Seiya).
So, the quote above was uttered when we were watching a fight scene. Seiya wasn't doing too well because he'd just come out of a coma and Hades had laid a curse on him, blah blah. He was fighting Odysseus, and we figured Ikki would intervene, since Ikki and Shun had seemed to have prevailed over Theseus earlier in the movie. It would have been a good time.
Alas, there was no flaming chicken intervention. Yon Swan and Dragon Saints killed Odysseus instead, and Seiya (in fine Saint tradition) left them passed out where they were and staggered onward to fight Icarus.
As a side note, Shun fights with semi-sentient chains that are part of the armour he has as a Saint of Athena? He has a tendency to use them to scale cliffs. This frequently prompts us to sing "Spider-Shun, Spider-Shun~". ;3 The first time we see him in the movie, he's up a cliff to get a better look at what's going on in the area (answer: godly violations of Euclidean geometry), and when we seem him again towards the end, he's doing it again! But this time he's hauling his big brother with him. Ikki is older and larger and can fly (most of the time) but hauling him nonetheless. Oh, boys. <3
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Date: 2008-04-29 02:05 pm (UTC)Okay, so the movie in question was the Overture movie for Saint Seiya (it was supposed to be the first of three and thus ends on a cliffhanger, but there won't be more, alas). The Overture movie comes after 114 episodes of the first TV show, a series of 18 OAVs that covered a story arc of the manga, and various other movie produced during the run of the tv show that I'm not counting since they're basically a separate continuity. Anyway. My point is that there's a fuck of a lot of backstory.
The pertinent backstory to all of this is that two of the characters, Shun and Ikki, are brothers. And while Ikki started out as brainwashed evil guy, he saw the light and switched sides and then the writers realised "FUCK he's WAY TOO POWERFUL" because he was the first Big Bad, y'see, so he's more stompy than his fellows. (Although in truth, Shun's more powerful than him. But in the anime, Shun often doesn't like to fight. Fortunately this movie didn't carry on that tradition.) Ikki is the Phoenix Saint (and he can actually come back from the dead, see WAY TOO POWERFUL) and because we're us, Phoenix automatically becomes "doom chicken". We tend to refer to Ikki as "the Chicken". (This does not in anyway indicate cowardice. Ikki's a badass in pink and blue.)
Now, the writers' solution to dealing with power issues was to get Ikki out of the way a lot of the time. He goes off on his own, he doesn't play well with others, he pretends he's not part of the group, he deals with now being way more religious than his fellows after having served an enemy god. But if Shun is in trouble? Suddenly he's there hurling fireballs. He's like an awesome fire ninja godling, and he's largely unstoppable. He doesn't just save Shun's bacon, though; he's also prone to saving the day for the others (or, at least, Seiya).
So, the quote above was uttered when we were watching a fight scene. Seiya wasn't doing too well because he'd just come out of a coma and Hades had laid a curse on him, blah blah. He was fighting Odysseus, and we figured Ikki would intervene, since Ikki and Shun had seemed to have prevailed over Theseus earlier in the movie. It would have been a good time.
Alas, there was no flaming chicken intervention. Yon Swan and Dragon Saints killed Odysseus instead, and Seiya (in fine Saint tradition) left them passed out where they were and staggered onward to fight Icarus.
As a side note, Shun fights with semi-sentient chains that are part of the armour he has as a Saint of Athena? He has a tendency to use them to scale cliffs. This frequently prompts us to sing "Spider-Shun, Spider-Shun~". ;3 The first time we see him in the movie, he's up a cliff to get a better look at what's going on in the area (answer: godly violations of Euclidean geometry), and when we seem him again towards the end, he's doing it again! But this time he's hauling his big brother with him. Ikki is older and larger and can fly (most of the time) but hauling him nonetheless. Oh, boys. <3
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Date: 2008-04-29 05:14 pm (UTC)Oh man, context DOES make it better! XD
*giggles at "Spider-Shun".