Movie 'verse Falcon: actually possible

[eliyes]

Okay, so, in 2008 movie The Incredible Hulk, which is crossing over with the upcoming Avengers movie, P.J. Kerr played Jim Wilson. In the comics, Jim was one of the Hulk's sidekicks, as well as his friend, and I think possibly the first Marvel hero to die of AIDS.

He was also the nephew of Sam Wilson, aka Falcon, Captain America's longest-running partner and good friend.

Might movie Steve meet Sam? I would be happy with even something like the two of them bumping into one another on the street and Jim (played again by Kerr for maximum recognition factor) hailing him as "Uncle Sam" or even just "Sam". (Hell, someone calling out to "Uncle Sam" would get Steve's attention anyway. ;3)

...Maybe I'll fic it.

(P.S. Amadeus Cho was also attending university with Jim. Might we see Hercules at some point...?)

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[kiffie.livejournal.com]

Also, I will say this now because I didn't before...

I refuse to watch The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man 2!

While I can't speak for Iron Man 2 (I'll get to why it troubles me in a moment), I will say that the second Hulk movie was, despite being a fix-it reboot, actually pretty good.

Whereas the first Hulk movie was all about the smashing and a half-baked trauma that made Bruce into an unstable (and size-variable!) green monster, the second movie actually handled the rage part better. It also made the Hulk into less of a creature and more of a person. Granted, you can only go so far with Hulk before it becomes a sell-out to the core of the character, but I liked the way they handled it there. It was less of a "Hulk smash you all!" and more of a "if you hurt Hulk, Hulk will smash; if you're okay to Hulk, Hulk will leave you alone" thing, which is how I think Hulk should be played, frankly.

(As an aside, my favorite incarnation of the Hulk in recent memory is the one that has popped up on Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which, if you get a chance to see it, really is just fantastic. Hulk is allowed enough autonomy to be a fully-realized character, but he's still undeniably Hulk. There is also a very cute moment between Hulk (who, up to that point, had only been a reluctant hero and had felt like everyone hated him) and Captain America, who pretty much tells Hulk he's awesome and should keep being awesome and Hulk has a moment of "...wait. Really?" It's so bwee. Also, the new season has WINTER SOLDIER OMG. So there's another reason to watch.)

It helps, of course, that the acting was surprisingly solid for a monster movie, and I, at least, came out of it with a bit of love for both of the leads. I still have no idea why they recast Bruce for The Avengers, as I think the role was in exceedingly good hands, but I also can't say I can complain very much about the new guy they've got, either. Having just seen Shutter Island, I think Bruce has a good actor in his brainmeats for the forseeable future.

As for Iron Man 2...

I like the idea of it. I love, love, love Rhodey, and was absolutely thrilled when I discovered the movie would give him his chance to shine. Hell, I was even okay with the idea of the Crimson Dynamo as a villain (I know, I know, wait for it); I think Mickey Rourke is a fine actor, and was happy with his casting. BUT. I was not okay with the WTF meddling that seemed to be going on there. Why was the Crimson Dynamo randomly Whiplash? Or, I suppose, why was Whiplash randomly the Crimson Dynamo? Why was Tony strutting around like a peacock without any sort of check mechanism (ie, Pepper)? And, most importantly, why did they replace Terrence Howard with Don Cheadle? As random has so helpfully pointed out, just about any other mainline black actor would have looked, sounded, and moved more like Terrence Howard than Don Cheadle. Hell, Will Smith looks more like Terrence Howard than Don Cheadle. (We both agreed that Will Smith would have made a hilarious, if not dramatically viable, Rhodey.) I think that meddling there, casting-wise, was what made me forgo seeing it in theatres, and it's still something that me pause in paying to see it, now.

The weird thing is, I still do intend to see it, someday. Because there was one preview for it (not the trailer that was released before the movie, but one made after it was already in theatres and had been running for a while) that actually makes the movie look... well, fun. Maybe not great, or even good... but fun. Like a popcorn flick, y'know? And I can't figure out why that wasn't the trailer that ran before it was released. Because, frankly, if I'd seen that one, I likely would have gone to see it. Don Cheadle aside, I mean.

[eliyes.livejournal.com]

...Darn it, now I might actually watch the Hulk movie, kiffies... ( >_<)9

I did like Rhodey in the first movie, but I confess the moment I could tell Tony was aobut to out himself as Iron Man, I turned it off. The second movie built from that, with what looked (even just in the trailers) to be even more "Tony's ego is out of control" stuff that I could not be arsed. I'm not especially fond of Tony Stark or Iron Man to begin with.

[kiffie.livejournal.com]

The movies are, admittedly, less about Tony and more about the people around Tony, I feel. That's why I'm thinking they're pushing Steve as the POV character in The Avengers, because Tony will act as the foil there, and Steve will provide the grounding for Tony's antics.

Tony can be fun, but only if the writers admit right out of the gate that this is not a particularly good person, or a person who anyone should ever want to emulate. That's probably why the first movie worked -- Tony is an ass, and we all knew it within the first five minutes. He's a heroic ass, and he clearly has his demons and is trying to do better, but: leopard, spots, etc.

Still. This is why they pair him with Steve. Steve is not afraid to pull him aside and say, "Tony, WTF." And Steve may be the only person (Pepper aside?) that Tony will listen to in that way.

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